Mind Cake
Mind Cake — conversations and short-form audio from writer Lee Crompton.
The Oven Is Only So Big: Katherine Trebeck on the Wellbeing Economy
The economy is a bit like a cake. Everyone keeps saying we need to grow it bigger. Everyone wants a bigger slice. But what if the oven is only so big? Katherine Trebeck is a political economist and advocate for the wellbeing economy, and this is one of the most mind-expanding honest mental health conversations Mind Cake has had. Not about therapy or coping with anxiety, but about the system underneath it all and why so many people feel ground down, burnt out and left behind. If you've ever felt the world isn't working the way it should, this conversation might explain why. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring honest mental health conversations and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak.
Death or Dinner: Tom Radford on Foraging and Finding Your Way Back to Nature
Tom Radford left a career in corporate communications, got a campervan, and started eating things he found in hedgerows. Now he takes people on walks through the British countryside and teaches them what's food, what's medicine and what might kill you. It turns out foraging isn't really about food at all. It's one of the most honest mental health conversations we've had on Mind Cake, and nobody mentions therapy once. Tom is the founder of Eat The Country and one of the most quietly compelling arguments for getting outside, slowing down and looking down occasionally. If you're looking for a self-help alternative that doesn't feel like self-help, this is it. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring mental health, resilience and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak.
The Crack is a Repair
What happens when a city famous for booing its own players decides to cheer instead? Jon McCann is a Philadelphia Phillies superfan, YouTuber and the man behind one of sport's most remarkable stories. A social media post that turned a struggling baseball player's season around and became a Netflix documentary. But behind the viral moment is a deeper story: a breakdown, a mental institution, and the unconditional love of two parents who refused to give up on him. This is one of the most honest mental health conversations we've had on Mind Cake, about empathy, survival, therapy, and why the crack in the Liberty Bell is actually a repair. If you're coping with anxiety or looking for a mental health interview that actually moves you, this is it. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring honest mental health conversations and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak. As seen on Netflix.
How An Ewok Saved My Life
In 2020, Mr Omar Hilmi sat across from Lee in a Glasgow hospital and told him he had six months to live. Five years later, they sat down for a cup of tea and talked about it. This is one of the most honest mental health conversations we've had on Mind Cake, and it isn't really about cancer. It's about honesty, hope, how doctors carry impossible conversations home with them, and what David Gemmell's Legend has to do with surviving a terminal diagnosis. Oh, and how Mr Hilmi ended up singing at Darth Vader's funeral. If you're looking for a mental health interview that's funny, moving and genuinely unlike anything else, this is it. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring honest mental health conversations and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak.
Woo Woo, Wool & Wet My Coals
Lee and Paul finally sit down together - in person, over lunch at the Golden Lion in Stirling - for the first time in a while. No guest. No agenda. Just two blokes catching up on what's been happening. In this one: Rock the collie, Paul's trip to Japan and a gig in Shanghai, hypnotherapy, Reiki, Hearts having a nightmare season, and why Lee has taken up knitting. That last one will make more sense in a few weeks.
Why You're Not Broken: Jo Robinson-Howarth on Happiness & Trauma
Jo from the Happiness Club has been through pretty much everything life can throw at a person: childhood instability, loss, difficult relationships, divorce, and a cancer diagnosis last year that she describes as one of the best things that ever happened to her. This is one of the most honest mental health conversations we've had on Mind Cake, and it isn't really about happiness. It's about why chasing it might be part of the problem. They get into toxic positivity, AI grief apps, why "high vibes only" might be making things worse, and why wellbeing is less like a prescription and more like a buffet. If you're coping with anxiety, questioning the wellness industry, or just tired of being told to think positive, this one's for you. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring honest mental health conversations and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak.
What the Heck Is Neurofeedback? Training the Brain for ADHD, Anxiety & Wellbeing
What if you could train your brain the same way you train a muscle — by watching it work in real time? Lee strapped sensors to his head and found out. This week Suzanne and Helen from Neurofeedback Scotland join Mind Cake to explain what neurofeedback actually is, how it works for ADHD, anxiety and trauma, and why it's nothing like the talking therapy Lee assumed it would be. Plus: Paul tries to understand the science, Lee walks through a forest with his brainwaves on display, and someone mentions a Tiny Penis Clinic. Find Neurofeedback Scotland at https://www.neurofeedback.scot/
New Year, Same Us: The Answerphone Was a Mistake
Lee and Paul are back in the office. The answerphone has messages. The milk in the mug is questionable. And it's January, which means everyone keeps asking how your Christmas was when nobody really wants to answer honestly. This is Mind Cake's New Year episode — no guest, no agenda, just two blokes back at their desks reflecting on the year gone and what's coming next. They get into: the Scottish handshake tradition, listener messages, what they actually want from 2026, speedway, CHiPs, and why "new year new you" is probably nonsense. Happy New Year. Same old us.
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From Burnout to Balance: What Happens When the Job You Love Starts Breaking You
From Burnout to Balance: What Happens When the Job You Love Starts Breaking You What do you do when the work that defines you — the work you'd do for free, the work that gets you out of bed every morning — starts quietly dismantling you from the inside? That's the question at the heart of this week's episode, as Lee sits down with Sarah, founder of The Nest and former global campaign manager for Oxfam, who spent 15 years working on poverty and climate change before hitting a wall she didn't see coming. Sarah's story isn't about hating your job. It's about loving it so much that you pour everything in — your identity, your energy, your sense of self — until one day you realise there's nothing left. From anxiety attacks on trains to crying in a hotel room in Utrecht to a random email from a stranger called Emma that changed everything, this is an honest conversation about burnout, reinvention, identity, and what it actually means to be brave. Plus: the firewalk arrow throat incident, karaoke at Happy Puppy in Indonesia, and Lee's humiliating exit from the county swimming championships.
Ghosts, Gongs & Grit: A Paranormal Slice of Mind Cake (Bonus Episode)
Ghosts, Gongs & Grit: Ghost Hunting, ADHD Diagnoses and Why the Mind Body Spirit Festival Nearly Broke Lee Cousin Carrie is back — and she's been busy. In this bonus episode, Lee, Paul and Cousin Carrie reconvene for a proper catch-up: three days under blazing fluorescent lights at the Birmingham NEC Mind Body Spirit Festival (verdict: probably not great for your mental health), Carrie's first self-organised ghost hunt at a Peaky Blinders-themed café in Small Heath, and Lee's ADHD diagnosis, which arrived with 26 pages of documentation and a lot of uncomfortable self-recognition. But this episode goes somewhere deeper than any of that. Lee opens up about a difficult few weeks — the fatigue, the disconnection, the moment sitting alone in his living room when it suddenly hit him just how close he came to not being here at all. It's the kind of conversation Mind Cake was built for: honest, unfiltered, and a reminder that the people who seem fine on the outside are often the ones who most need someone to ask. Plus: Paul is in a funnel. The bird lived. Juan Kerr had a dream about Cousin Carrie at the West Midlands Safari Park. Ian McNabb thinks the Vatican is built on a pagan site. These things are all true.
NATURAL HEALING THROUGH PATCHES
Natural Healing Through Patches: Could a Patch on Your Skin Replace a Handful of Pills? What if you could get your vitamin D, zinc, elderberry and magnesium all at once, without swallowing a single tablet? Lee catches up with Nadine, founder of Arden Life and creator of Patchworks, fresh from the NEC wellness festival where they first met. Nadine walks through how her range of 13 botanical patches work — slow-releasing vitamins, minerals and plant extracts directly through the skin, exactly like a nicotine patch but without the nicotine and with significantly better vibes. From the sleep patch to the menopause patch to the biomagnetic joint patch with copper EMF protection, this is a thoughtful conversation about natural approaches to wellness, why what you put on your skin matters as much as what you put in your body, and why the turkey tail mushroom might be about to become very hard to get hold of.
PARANORMAL PERSPECTIVES: Debunking Myths & Embracing Curiosity
Fresh from a Halloween special with a practising witch, Lee and Paul bring in the counterpoint — Deborah Hyde, editor of the Sceptic Magazine and resident expert on the BBC's Uncanny podcast, to ask the question: why, in the age of smartphones and satellite navigation, do we still believe in ghosts? The answer, it turns out, is less about gullibility and more about the perfectly normal, deeply human way our brains work. Deborah unpacks the science of supernatural belief — from sleep paralysis and cultural software to why your memory of a car crash might be completely wrong about both the colour and the location. She also makes a convincing case for Guillermo del Toro, explains why folklore about doubles (or "fetches") predates every horror film you've ever seen, and why a full moon probably isn't making anyone more mental — but it did used to make them more visible. Plus: Lee has his ADHD assessment, Paul goes grounding on the beach (not grinding — different thing entirely), and Hearts are nine points clear.
Witchcraft Unwrapped: Spells, Spirits & Self-Care with Swailes
Witchcraft Unwrapped: Spells, Spirits and the Surprising Mental Health Benefits of Being a Bit More Witchy. What does witchcraft actually have to do with mental health? More than you might think. This Halloween special, Lee and Paul are joined by Swales — host of the award-winning Bell Witch Podcast — for a conversation that starts with cauldrons and ends up somewhere surprisingly profound. Swales unpacks the real meaning behind modern witchcraft: not devil worship and broomsticks, but nature connection, intentional living, self-compassion and — crucially — learning to talk to yourself the way you'd talk to someone you love. Along the way: why blowing out birthday candles is technically a spell, what grounding actually does to your nervous system, and why going for a pointless walk with no music and looking at some ducks might be the most radical act of self-care available to you right now. Plus: Paul's lucky pants make a return, Lee goes rogue on the Blair Witch timeline, and cousin Carrie may be about to go ghost hunting in a Birmingham pub.
Rallying Through Resilience: Chris Ingram's Journey from Champion to Comeback
What happens to your mental health when you reach the pinnacle of your sport — and then lose everything overnight? In this episode, Lee is joined by Chris Ingram, British Rally Champion and former European Rally Champion, who did exactly that. After becoming the youngest driver to win the European title (and the first British driver to do so in over 50 years), COVID-19 stripped Chris of his funding, his racing, and very nearly his momentum toward a World Championship dream. Chris opens up about the mental toll of that collapse, the daily habits and mentors that helped him rebuild his confidence from scratch, and why he sees self-awareness — not just speed — as his greatest competitive weapon. Plus: how a cancelled psychic appointment in Knutsford led to this very conversation, why he crowdfunded his way to a European title, and how he's now selling shares in himself to reach Rally One. Guest co-host: Pete Green of Greeno Eats.
School Avoidance & Anxiety with Dr. Carolyne Keenan
If your child is refusing to go to school and you don't know why — or what to do — this episode is for you. Dr Caroline Keenan is a psychologist, public speaker and BBC Radio regular who specialises in emotion based school avoidance — the difference between a child who won't go to school and a child who genuinely can't. Lee has an eight year old and a five year old. This conversation is personal. They talk about what emotion based school avoidance actually is, why it gets mistaken for truancy, what parents can do to help without making things worse, and why getting children back into school as quickly as possible isn't always the right first step.
Ann Widdecombe: Politics, Perserverance And The Pasodoble
For their 50th episode, Lee and Paul record live from an apiary pod at Monocle Moor — with a bee as their third guest. Their actual second guest is Ann Widdecombe. Former MP, government minister, Strictly Come Dancing contestant and Brexit Party MEP, Ann joins Mind Cake to talk about her childhood moving around with a naval family, what drew her to politics during the Cold War, faith, resilience, and the state of the modern world. Plus: a Mind Cake quiz, 50 episode stats, and Lee opens up about living with fatigue after cancer treatment — and why doing nothing is harder than it sounds.
Decluttering the Chaos: How Clearing Space Can Improve Your Mental Health
Can clearing out your kitchen cupboards actually improve your mental health? This week, Lee and Paul are joined by Kerry from KC's Clutter Cure — a professional declutterer, former psychiatric nurse and behaviour management specialist based in Queensland, Australia — who makes a compelling case that the state of your home and the state of your mind are deeply connected. Kerry opens up about her own journey from someone who believed possessions defined her worth, to embracing minimalism after packing an entire three-bedroom house into a car and never looking back. Along the way: the psychology of hoarding (it's a recognised mental disorder, affecting up to 1 in 20 people over 50), why buying cleaning products and storage boxes often makes clutter worse, and the one insight that floored Lee and Paul — that the brain literally cannot be creative and anxious at the same time. Plus: Paul's box of cables gets a long overdue intervention, Lee's pancake mugs survive another episode, and Mind Cake gets its first ever live kookaburra.
STRIDING THROUGH STRUGGLE: Kit Birks on Addiction, Recovery & Walking for Mental Health
Kit Birks was diagnosed with anorexia at 13. By her mid-twenties she was living in her car, sleeping rough, and had survived multiple suicide attempts. On June 2nd 2022 she got clean. She hasn't looked back. Now 29, Kit is a poet, mental health advocate, Reiki practitioner and — this July — attempting a world record breaking trek from the northernmost to southernmost point in Europe. 8,500 kilometres. Ten countries. Arctic to Aegean. This is one of the most honest conversations Mind Cake has ever had. Find Kit on Instagram and TikTok — search Kit Birks. Her poetry book Burnt Toast is available in Waterstones and online. Support Stride Beyond Silence — search Just Giving: Stride Beyond Silence.
The Man Who Killed the Video Game Industry - Howard Scott Warshaw
Howard Scott Warshaw created Yar's Revenge and Indiana Jones for Atari. He also created E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial — widely considered the worst video game ever made, blamed for crashing the entire video game industry, and the subject of a documentary about a literal burial in the New Mexico desert. He's now a psychotherapist in Silicon Valley. This is the story of how you go from making history to processing it — and what happens when the thing you're most famous for is also the thing you're most infamous for. Get his book: Once Upon Atari — How I Made History by Killing an Industry.
RESILIENCE & REDEFINING NORMS: Ultra-Runner Rachel Macpherson on Mental Strength & Going Bald
Running Free: How Shaving Your Head, Running 107 Miles and Letting Go Can Transform Your Mental Health What happens when you decide to do something purely because you want to — not for charity, not to make a point, not to fit any expectation — just because you want to see what happens? That's the question at the heart of this conversation with Rachel McPherson, a woman who went from couch to 107-mile ultramarathon in under three years, and who is about to shave off her long hair live on Instagram on 22nd December. Rachel's story spans drug use as a teenager, losing her dad to suicide at 22, giving up substances cold turkey after a relationship ended, and discovering that running — and specifically the pain cave — has quietly rebuilt everything. She talks honestly about vanity, social media addiction, identity, grief and what it means to do something that scares you purely because it scares you. Plus: cold tomato soup as a race nutrition strategy, the backyard ultra format explained, why zone two running is harder than going flat out, and Lee's genuine temptation to enter a race he'd last approximately two loops. Fundraising for Little Princess Trust and CALM — Campaign Against Living Miserably.
JONATHAN AGNEW: Beyond the Boundary – Cricket, Mental Health & Finding Strength in Adversity
Jonathan Agnew on Loneliness, Loss and Why a Euphonium Changed Everything. He's been the voice of cricket for over 30 years, taken 666 first-class wickets, and commentated on some of the greatest moments in Test match history. But when Jonathan Agnew — Aggers to anyone who's ever listened to Test Match Special — sits down with Lee and Paul, it's not the cricket that takes centre stage. It's the loneliness of hotel rooms in Pakistan, the mental health crisis hiding in plain sight in professional cricket, his wife Emma's breast cancer diagnosis in 2017, and why joining a brass band in Melton Mowbray at the age of 60-something was the single best thing he's done for his mental health in years. Oh, and he's taking a euphonium to Pakistan. In his luggage. On a BBC tour. Because that's the kind of man Jonathan Agnew is. Plus: the Queen's Dundee cake, the Marks & Spencer moment after Emma's all-clear, the best sledge in cricket history (it involves a Melbourne taxi driver), and why Aggers thinks he could have worked harder as a cricketer — even after taking 666 wickets.
THE HEALING POWER OF YOGA: Movement and Mindfulness with Amy Alexander
Movement and Mindfulness: How Yoga Gave a Bionic Woman Her Body Back. At 14, Amy Alexander was told she had severe scoliosis — a spine shaped like a proper S — and that without immediate surgery she'd have a hunchback and be in a wheelchair by 21. The surgery involved two metal rods, six screws, and the very real possibility of paralysis or death. She signed the consent form herself, went home, made a regimented recovery plan, and four weeks later was at Sylvia Young Theatre School doing movement. Thirty-odd years later, Amy — actress, vocal coach, yoga teacher, cacao ceremony practitioner and occasional Idris Elba collaborator — is calling from Bali, where she just completed a 30-day yoga challenge that she started because her life seemed to be falling apart and a voice in her head (not Idris) told her it was going to be okay. This is a conversation about movement as medicine, yoga as empowerment, the fascia muscle, yin vs vinyasa, cold water swimming, cacao ceremonies, chronic fatigue syndrome, emergency gallbladder surgery, and why your body is the only one you're getting so you might as well develop a decent relationship with it. Plus: Paul is in Ipswich in a Travel Lodge eating a chippy, and the great Scottish fish supper debate — one fish or two? — remains unresolved.
BREATHWORK AND BROWNIES: Lee-Anne Breen's Recipe for Mindfulness
Breathwork and Brownies: How Conscious Breathing Can Transform Your Mental Health What if one of the most powerful tools for anxiety, stress and emotional release was something you're already doing every second of every day — just badly? This week, Paul visits Lee-Anne Breen of Trossachs Wellbeing in her home therapy studio (Lee is ill again) for a deep dive into breathwork, Reiki, the mind-body connection, and why lying on a yoga mat breathing in circular patterns can leave you feeling like a completely different person. Lee-Anne came to this work through her own journey with depression, anxiety and an autoimmune thyroid condition — and found that complementary therapies did what conventional medicine alone couldn't. Now a practitioner in mindfulness, Reiki and holosomatic breath therapy, she explains why your nervous system is keeping you stuck in fight-or-flight, why people sometimes shake and cry on her yoga mat, and how taking three deep breaths while the kettle boils might actually change your life. Plus: gluten-free, dairy-free brownies that taste like neither of those things are missing, Paul tries mouth tape that night and reports back, and Mind Cake celebrates its first birthday with 4,000 plays, 400 Facebook followers and — somehow — 800 newsletter subscribers.
ARTHUR SMITH: Comedy, Chaos & The Naked Anthem
Arthur Smith on Near Death, Naked Anthems and Why the Absurdity of Life Should Be a Beginning, Not an End. He's been going to the Edinburgh Fringe since 1977. He's been arrested there for breach of the peace and possession of a megaphone. He nearly died from acute necrotising pancreatitis in 2001, discovered he really likes morphine, and hasn't been drunk since. He once sang the Moldovan national anthem naked outside Boots in Balham on a cold March evening after losing a bet with comedian Tony Hawks. He had lunch with Arthur Miller with a terrible hangover and couldn't think of a single thing to say. This is Arthur Smith — comedian, writer, Grumpy Old Man, backwards bar manager from Red Dwarf — talking to Lee at the Edinburgh Fringe from his hotel room after forgetting they'd arranged the interview, calling in a panic from the bus, and arriving with his phone on 12% battery. They talk about sobriety, the relationship between comedy and mental health, why making a room laugh is genuinely good for your wellbeing, why the absurdity of being alive is funny rather than terrifying, and what it means to face your own mortality and then be expected to go back to work on Monday morning as if none of it happened.
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL: Mental Health, Politics & Surviving the Spotlight
Alastair Campbell on Depression, Breakdowns and Why Mental Health is Still the Last Great Taboo. How did Lee end up getting Alastair Campbell on the podcast? By doing something very Mind Cake — sticking his hand up in a room of 200 people at a construction conference in London, saying "oh fuck it," and asking. And remarkably, it worked. Alastair Campbell — Tony Blair's former press secretary, author, podcaster, mental health campaigner and bagpipe enthusiast — sits down with Lee for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about his own breakdown in the 1980s, his brother's schizophrenia diagnosis, his daily mental health scale (1 to 10, with 10 being suicidal), and why he believes the UK has a mental health crisis service rather than a mental health service .Along the way: a 6am kick-about with Maradona at an empty Old Trafford, why Rishi Sunak's "sick note culture" speech made him furious, the staggering suicide rates in construction (four times higher than any other sector), a letter from a man who planned to end his life but picked up Alastair's book instead, and why VAR is ruining football for everyone. Not your average mental health podcast episode. Not your average guest.
FIND HEALING IN NATURE: Sharing Circles with Russell Trent
Find Healing in Nature: Why Men Are Gathering in the Woods to Talk About Their Feelings What if the key to men's mental health isn't a therapist's couch, but a fire pit in the middle of a forest? Russell Trent thinks so — and the 700-plus likes, 80-plus comments and immediate sell-out of his first Men's Sharing Circle in Dorset suggest a lot of other men do too. Russell runs Boars in the Woods — a monthly men's sharing circle held outdoors at Little Bear Woods Forest School near Ringwood, Dorset. No advice, no opinions, no pressure to speak. Just a fire, a parachute canopy, 15 men, and a space to say the things you can't say anywhere else. Lee and Paul hear how a chance encounter with a forest school teacher led Russell from participant to facilitator, what happened when one man in the January circle said he couldn't wait and just needed to share, and why the simple act of being heard — without judgment, without anyone trying to fix you — might be one of the most powerful things available for men's mental health. Plus: Ice Bath Gate reaches a jaw-dropping new low, Lee's Reiki session produces inexplicable heat and oscillating sensations from completely stationary hands, the podcast hits episode 10, and Paul's hair gets its own spin-off discussion.
CRYSTALS, ENERGY & SKEPTICISM: Healing with Kay from KC Holistics
Crystals, Energy and Scepticism: Can a Shiny Rock Actually Improve Your Mental Health? Lee went to Knutsford for a weekend with friends. He ended up at a crystal stall, then at a psychic reading that left him genuinely baffled, then back at the crystal stall buying things he didn't entirely believe in, then launching a podcast and inviting the crystal lady on it. These things happen. Kay from KC Holistics — crystal healer, Reiki practitioner and owner of what sounds like a very calming crystal cabin in Sale, Greater Manchester — joins Lee and Paul for Mind Cake's first ever joint interview. She makes the case that crystals might be doing more than just sitting there looking pretty. Whether it's amethyst for sleep, moonstone for calm, or rose quartz for general emotional balance, Kay explains what crystals actually are, how they work, and why even a committed sceptic might find himself absentmindedly rubbing a piece of volcanic glass in his pocket and feeling slightly better about things. Plus: Paul's mental arithmetic gets another public airing, Lee discovers Kay went to the same theatre in Sale, the Towers of Silence in India make an unexpected appearance, and someone's son gets stung by a jellyfish in Australia.
CRUSH YOUR GOALS: Dr. Jan on Realistic Resolutions That Stick
Why Your New Year's Resolutions Failed — And What to Do Instead. It's the 29th of January. Paul has averaged 8,100 steps a day instead of 10,000. Lee has done 10,000 steps on exactly one day — the day he got lost looking for a waterfall for cold water therapy. Both are firmly in the 75% of people who don't achieve their New Year's resolutions. Enter Doctor Jan Ferris — Mind Cake's first ever returning guest and a clinical psychologist — who makes the case that the problem isn't your willpower. It's the context in which you made those resolutions, the lens you were viewing yourself through when you made them, and the fact that you were probably eating Quality Streets at the time. This is a conversation about why threat-based drive doesn't lead to sustainable change, why value-based goals are more likely to actually happen, and why the harshest possible time to make life-changing decisions is when you're horizontal in your loungewear between Christmas and New Year. Plus: Izzy does the intro in one take, haggis taxonomy, the green triangle vs the pink Quality Street, and a controversial dietary episode that will not be named.
HOW SLEEP TRANSFORMS MENTAL HEALTH: Corinna Gethins’ Expert Tips
How Sleep Transforms Mental Health: Everything You Need to Know About Getting a Better Night's Rest We all know we should sleep more. We all also know we're going to lie in bed scrolling through our phones until midnight anyway. But what if understanding why sleep matters so much might actually change the habit? In this episode, Lee and Paul are joined by Corinna Gethins — sleep counsellor, home link worker for Renfrewshire Council, and the lead on Sleep Action for Renfrewshire — who makes a compelling case that sleep is every bit as important as diet and exercise for your mental health, and probably more so. From the vicious cycle of depression and insomnia, to melatonin and cortisol, to the Chernobyl disaster, to why giraffes only sleep for two hours a night, this is a genuinely fascinating conversation that Lee actually followed the advice from and had a great night's sleep immediately after recording. Plus: Mind Cake gets its first branded mug, Paul's 44th birthday is celebrated with a Biscoff biscuit, Northern Noms Bakery sends cake to the wrong co-host, and Lee maps out the mind-bending geography of international listeners including the mysterious Norwegian.